To all who spoke poorly about Joe Biden over the years.

[usonian]

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I hope and pray he outlives every damn heartless one of you.

[Iggo]

1. Oh...my...gawd!

You guys, I swear.

[mr715]

2. Jesus Christ

[mountain grammy]

3. Seriously?

pretty offensive in my opinion

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. Life is black & white for some. Nt

[Initech]

5. What the fuck?

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. You talking to me?

I’ve both praised and criticized Biden over the years.

Am I a target of your broadbrushed scorn and hatred, Just because Biden has a serious illness?

My criticism didn’t give Biden cancer, but insistence that no one may criticize a sitting or former president is a cancer that leads to fascism.

[W_HAMILTON]

7. Except in this case...

...too many letting the perfect be the enemy of the good is what led to fascism.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. I'm not talking about voting

This OP was directed to anyone who ever said anything negative about Joe Biden.

That is the clearest example of a fascistic purity test that I can think of: no speech criticizing a leader is allowed.

[W_HAMILTON]

9. You think those that found every single little thing to criticize Biden about didn't impact voters?

I always thought it sounded so ridiculous when people would be like, "here's why I hate Hillary and you should too, but you should still vote for her" and it sounds even worse when Biden is substituted in there. Especially after all the good that Biden did and all that he was able to accomplish.

And even if "no speech criticizing a leader is allowed" was the standard used under Biden, we still wouldn't be as close to a fucking fascist takeover as we are today, so I don't want to hear that either.

As people always say, you are free to say what you want -- well, apparently not under this Trump administration given his crackdown on protests, but alas... -- but with it comes responsibilities and it doesn't absolve you from the consequences of your words. And the consequence of so many supposed allies on the left criticizing Biden instead of appreciating all that he was able to accomplish and defending him and his progressive administration? The consequence is the fascist regime we now have in office.

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. Things could have been quite different

Biden could have announced in December 2022 that he would not run for reelection, and we would not be having this conversation, we would instead be looking back at his successes, with no asterisks or qualifiers (well, maybe just one), just his record to serve as his legacy.

Instead, Biden’s choices regarding the 2024 election have made him fair game for criticism of those choices.

[W_HAMILTON]

13. Biden could have announced he wasn't going to run and Kamala would still have been our nominee.

Zero chance the same voters that propelled him into the 2020 Democratic nomination and voted for him again in the 2024 primary wouldn't have propelled Kamala into the nomination. So, we would have still ended up where we ended up, except I guess even more complaints about """rigging""" because a certain subset of voters on the left that just love to shit on our Democratic candidates are also the same ones on the left that can't muster up enough votes from our broad Democratic electorate to actually win a nomination, so they claim it's all """rigged""" rather than admit they don't appeal to the majority of voters.

And Biden would still be doing a better job at running the country than Trump or any other Republican has in my lifetime.

[ecstatic]

14. Not necessarily.

In 2022, hell, even in 2024, the concern was that there was still too much sexism. However, the timing of Biden stepping down in July 2024 made VP Harris the only unifying option available.

[usonian]

15. A lot of people discussed the negatives of his age and so on, without

the due balance on his sterling character and brilliant and highly compassionate and even-handed management of foreign and domestic affairs.

As for personal attacks and oh-so-cute slurs, the man lost a wife, a daughter and a son. He endured grief beyond imagination and still gave his all for the country and all the citizens thereof. His son was singularly prosecuted by an "impartial" attorney general, most of whose work was completely undone in a single day. Attacks on him were both subtle and vile and all unworthy, the way one projects one's own failures, weaknesses and fears onto someone of great character and compassion.

People rejoice in others' flaws because of "whataboutism" ... finding someone else to be less than perfect "justifies" their faults and failures.

People upset by my post? Maybe they said something rude or unkind. Naturally, we're tempted to say things about old people. I do so in the lounge ABOUT MYSELF. I have a photographic memory. An online quiz verified it! but it sometimes takes me a few seconds to pull up something from memory.

Never ridicule someone for who they are, their weaknesses, or looks. Just their actions.

Joe always acted on true facts, always had the best intention for all, the nation and people of the world, always spoke accurately and compassionately(*) , and acted totally honestly and ethically.

(*) Well, we have a combative election system. He still spoke the truth!

As I was typing this longish response, I saw your latest reply.

Bingo.

Not only will a hit dog holler, it knows when it has done a boo-boo.

[ecstatic]

10. yikes!

[W_HAMILTON]

12. Judging from the responses...

...a hit dog will holler.