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Miles Archer

(19,335 posts)
Wed May 14, 2025, 04:32 PM May 14

Dahmer, Gacy, Bundy, all operated on one frequency with singular objectives. Sort of like Trump.

I thought about that a few minutes ago.

I was thinking of George W Bush. My "political awareness" began after i picked up Al Franken's "Lies And The Lying Liars Who Tell Them." I'd never heard of Karl Rove before that. I never gave too much thought to that Wizard of Oz "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" thing.

I've had a standard go-to line for Trump..."He only cares about what he can eat, spend, or fuck." That seems harsh, and the aging hippie dude in me wants to look for more than that, but I don't believe there IS more than that. He's a malignant narcissist, sure...he's starved for attention, no matter how much he gets, but his endgame is that he wants food, money (and the things money can buy) and sex without any commitment or consequences on his part.

And no, raping E Jean Carroll wasn't "sex." I don't believe rape IS "sex." I believe it's a pathological need to dominate and humiliate another human being, and sex is a means to an end in that regard.

DAHMER had a SCRIPT. He really didn't color outside the lines of that script.
Neither did Gacy.
Neither did Bundy.
Neither does Trump.

I know you keep seeing criticism of various media figures who want to uncover the clandestine secrets of Trump's masterful gave of 3-D chess.

And, at the same time, the responses, like "He's really playing checkers, and he's just eating the pieces."

Trump is not a complex individual. You can see how easily he's triggered by the slightest criticism, and if hyperbole ceased to exist, so would his ability to communicate.

I have this concern that society / the media keeps building him up and up and up into some sort of mythical, mystical demonic entity.

And in reality, he's just a morbidly obese, spray tanned, combed over 78 year old pig.

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Dahmer, Gacy, Bundy, all operated on one frequency with singular objectives. Sort of like Trump. (Original Post) Miles Archer May 14 OP
If this POS had not been born into fortune... FalloutShelter May 14 #1
Sociopaths tend to act in similar ways. surfered May 14 #2
Pigs are better than dump. Maybe toxic amoeba is a more fitting metaphor. Clouds Passing May 14 #3
Hear, hear! ShazzieB May 14 #4
Yes! (Although I would substitute power for sex) NH Ethylene May 14 #5
He's not "spray tanned," he wears foundation makeup JoseBalow May 14 #6
I think your assessment is spot on. HeartsCanHope May 14 #7
Agree with everyone's assessment, here. He would be in prison if he were poor. But the allegorical oracle May 14 #9
Yep Figarosmom May 14 #8

FalloutShelter

(13,348 posts)
1. If this POS had not been born into fortune...
Wed May 14, 2025, 04:53 PM
May 14

He would be in jail or dead and they would be digging up his basement looking or bodies.

NH Ethylene

(31,129 posts)
5. Yes! (Although I would substitute power for sex)
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:06 PM
May 14

All the sexual ventures we have heard about him involve power - rape, grabbing feels, exploiting children. Has he ever had a romantic/sexual relationship that did not feed his need to feel powerful? I doubt it.

JoseBalow

(7,511 posts)
6. He's not "spray tanned," he wears foundation makeup
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:13 PM
May 14

Every single day, he sits at his little vanity in front of a mirror and puts on his makeup to pretty himself up.
Like a boss.
Just sayin'

HeartsCanHope

(1,040 posts)
7. I think your assessment is spot on.
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:22 PM
May 14

Last edited Wed May 14, 2025, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

I recently listened to the podcast Shrinking Trump by psychologists Jon Gartner and Harry Segal. Starting around 1:21:48 they talk with Dr Vince Greenwood and talk about Trump's psychopathy. He gives the 3 main traits for psychopathy and relates it to Trump's effects on our country.
Here is the link:


Trump is dangerous, but he's operating mostly on impulse. There's no master plan on his part. He's mostly reacting. There are 3 main traits: impulsivity, drive to dominate, and remorselessness. That's where Trump operates. He's unable to control himself. These traits are hardwired into his brain.
Great post!

allegorical oracle

(4,957 posts)
9. Agree with everyone's assessment, here. He would be in prison if he were poor. But the
Wed May 14, 2025, 08:16 PM
May 14

misbehavior that most frightens me is his unrelenting drive to avenge every person who has dared question his behavior, much less hold him responsible for his lies and grifting. That includes his parents and teachers when he was young.

He has a history of not being fondly accepted by NY "high" society and that appears to have fed his hunger to have the most money and power of anyone in the world. He has gone bankrupt and been convicted of multiple crimes, multiple times. But rather than change his tactics, he bounces back, repeats his misbehavior in even more devious ways, and is rewarded.

Today, he is more powerful and wealthier than ever. He didn't get there by himself. He had scads of help. And his behavior will continue until his enablers turn on him. We must figure out how that can be done, come together, and do it.

Figarosmom

(5,776 posts)
8. Yep
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:36 PM
May 14

That is exactly who he is. If he hadn't been born to a rich family he would be a fat pig trailer park trash making porn films.

And I'm not denigrating trailer parks, there are some mighty fine ones, i even lived in one. But the type he'd be from are those on the outskirts of town with trailers that are falling apart and really cheap.

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